Ask the Expert- Cali Estes – The Addictions Coach

Ask the Expert —  Cali Estes — The Addictions Coach

Question #1:  “Cali do you find you make more money as a therapist or a recovery coach?  I want to get into coaching, but I am afraid I won’t get clients.”~ John Tagert, New York

Answer:  “John, Recovery Coaching is a super lucrative field and the clients actually enjoying coming to see you. In therapy, the clients dread coming.  They get stuck in the negative and frankly don’t get very far in years.  In Recovery Coaching, I am able to get further in 6 months using a forward action plan then clients have attained in years of therapy.  Some therapists are excited by the idea of Recovery Coaching and getting cash pay clients, verses having to accept insurance and getting very little if at all.”

 Ask the Expert — Cali Estes

Question #2:  “Have you had anyone tell you that it is a disgrace what you are doing and a therapist should not be a coach?”

Answer: “Yes and I find it comical.  I have had a few therapists and uncertified interventionists send me emails that are funny actually.  I started a Recovery Coaching Certification process and I am the only one that took it national.  I think that they are just jealous that I am backed by NAADAC with a full National Certification in Recovery Coaching and a full National Certification in Intervention.  If they were not so busy being jealous, they might actually be able to grow their practice beyond their local zip code.”

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